Capitol Beatles Box Set Vol 2 - Continued (Part 2)

It's also a sampler. Not to stir any fires with the one that we have burning hot enough already but we all know that samplers sometimes have things that aren't quite what they are on the released version...and sometimes things that are unique to that sampler. We could start a whole new thread where we all post what's odd to a sampler that isn't on the release it's supposed to sample.

 

Guys,



Let me point out that Capitol, like any business, is here to make money. We all go to work not for the fun of it but to make money. Some of us can do both and I envy you. Capitol is no different. I have every reason to believe that if, If, IF something is wrong on the set, Capitol will fix said 'problem' and get it to the consumer.

As I believe Bruce implied last night, the reason that we have a Volume 2 is because Volume 1 did well enough to warrant it. That is MY interepretation of his comments and not his exact words. Maybe not even his feeling. If we are all going to cross our ams and pout and NOT buy the set because something might be wrong with it, kiss any idea of Volume 3 goodbye. As he also mentioned last night at the preview, Apple as it stands now is an office with a few people in it. That's it. And right now they are concerned with the Cirque Du Soleil thing in Vegas. Even though I'm sure that they want the right thing done, I'm sure that they don't need the aggravation either and have bigger fish to fry than dealing with the Capitol albums that they never wanted out to begin with. May I point out that with the impending remaster of the British catalog, frustrating the Capitol effort might get it canned altogether. That is my opinion based on just hearing various statements and making an assumption.

And yes, I DO know what happens when you 'assume'.

Hell, the British catalog may not even be mono/stereo like we are getting here. So let's just all take a step back, relax, and see what happens. As I stated a few times through my grogginess this morning, IF there is a problem, Capitol will be made aware of it, I'm sure, if they haven't already and WILL fix it. If they cared enough to alter the design of the box after Volume One based on fans bitching about it, it only stands to reason that they would fix any problem with incorrect masters on a cd. For God's sake, they even put the writing on the album spines in Volume 2 because a few people crabbed about that. And yes, The Beatles Story IS on the back of the appropriate lps now. See? They even did that.

That is MY opinion based on what I've seen just and no one else's.

I'll stick by that.

 

Speaking of The Beatles Story, Bruce mentioned that it wouldn't be included on a box set because other than maybe 30 seconds of Twist and Shout from the Hollywood Bowl, it's mostly LA djs talking about the Beatles. The only other music on it is The Hollyridge Strings.

And speaking of The Hollywood Bowl, I neglected to mention that this would be an album that he would put in Volume 3 if he had his druthers, along with Yesterday & Today and Hey Jude.

 

Decorum. There's a time and place. When people are standing around and the guy is trying to sell stuff, you don't want to put him on the spot. Plus, others have already asked him and/or made calls to him. I'm sure that they would like to post their answers, if any, and I don't want to rain on their parade either.

Plus, there is a type of Beatle Fan that has become know as a 'Beatard'. We all know what they are like. They are the types that fall for..and hope for..the internet rumor of a 'sons of the Beatles' tour. Every year. I had no wish to join their ranks or even look like one of them. God knows there were enough of them last night and today should be pure hell.

 

Ah. A voice of reason. The samplers alone for Volume 2 are already going for $30 or more on Ebay.

And you wouldn't have to raise heck, I'm sure.

 

Guys, we are looking at the threads on a quilt. Let's wait to see the whole thing before we get worked up.

Like I said...a few times already...IF there is a problem, it will get fixed, I'm sure, in my humble opinion. THEN we can have the 'how the hell did that happen' discussion.

I can see why some posters have gone silent.

 

I know what you are saying. I know what Yellow Balloon is saying.

What I'm saying is, regardless of what was used, IF it is wrong, it will get fixed. It doesn't benefit Capitol to have the wrong master on the cd is all I'm saying. Regardless of it's pedigree. When Rhino Handmade originally issued the David Peel collection that had the albums Have A Marijuana and The American Revolution, it was found out that someone pulled the wrong master for, I think, The American Revolution. They used a master that was edited and left out bits here and there in between songs. They stepped up and sent everyone who ordered the correct cd with the correct master. Without anyone who ordered asking for it. Instead of destroying the sets that they already had, when folks ordered from that point on, they got the new, corrected cd slapped on top of the package until that supply ran out and they could just remake new ones. If they ever did. The point I'm making...again... is that even a small company, like Rhino Handmade was at the time, did the right thing when something was found out to be wrong. We've seen that a number of times thoughout the years on cd. I have every belief that Capitol will do the right thing IF something is wrong. There is a little too much Roswell type conspiracy stuff happening here. everyone relax. Let's have a spirited discussion but there comes a point where all we are doing is going around in circles. From some posts here, it seems that attempts were made to contact him. The guy is busy this weekend for God's sake. If Bruce Spizer has something to say, he will. Consider that he may also be in a position where he CAN'T say anything for some reason or another. And let's not put this all on his shoulders or those of Ted Jensen. Let's wait and see what happens is all I'm saying.

They way I see it, there are two different issues here. The first is, "Is something wrong with the box set and if it is will it get fixed?" I say "I don't know" and "Yes" if it is.

The other issue is, were fold downs created where none had previously existed and why? I don't know and wouldn't worry about it until we know more.

I for one will be enjoying the box set when it comes out based on what I've heard on the sampler and the listening preview last night.

And I will be saying 'Thank you!' to all involved for doing it. If they care enough to do it to begin with, if they care enough to listen and change the packaging based on consumer response, if they care enough to get Bruce Spizer involved on the booklet like he should have done on the first set, then they will care enough to fix any mistake that might have happened, if it happened. Who here hasn't made some major mistake at work AND wanted the chance to fix it? And who would want to be known by that mistake? Capitol cares, Bruce Spizer cares, Ted Jensen cares and it is my opinion that IF there was a mistake made that none of these gentlemen are happy with it or had anything to do with it. I would almost bet that they would be leading the charge to get anything incorrect corrected.

I'm getting dressed and going to Bealefest. If anyone wants to ask Bruce Spizer about the set, you have today and tomorrow to do it. Come out to Jersey. I'm headed there now to enjoy Pete Best's band and to see Peter & Gordon.

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